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With Lewinsky things are slightly different because (a) there was DNA evidence and (b) the claim of wrongdoing didn’t revolve around consent but rather the fact that Bill was her boss.

Yes we give the accused the benefit of the doubt and require the prosecution to meet a high burden of proof to overturn that. It is not symmetric by design.

1.) There is no prosecution involved here.

2.) The actual prosecution of a crime does not start with the assumption that whoever is reporting the crime is lying.


A claim with no supporting evidence is just that, a claim.

And the list being discussed in this thread is one way to help gather the supporting evidence that you demand.

Because this is the sort of thing that in most cases can’t be substantiated by hard evidence. Whereas all of the rest of the examples you have generally can be. Would you support punishment of anyone as an arsonist only on the basis of a claim that they committed arson and #believeallwomen?

Apple TV has an OS level issue where it will kill apps that do too much background activity at random, the Tailscale guys can’t really change that.

The commentators in this thread are missing something important because they hate OpenAI so much. If I tell my AI agent to “go find public Australian health statistics” this should not be possible to make into a felony, even if the Australians put more files on the “publicly available” side than they intended to. It is going to be ordinary folks, researchers who politicians have an ax to grind against, etc, who will face the fallout from this. OpenAI will just achieve regulatory capture.

Well, yeah.

If I sold a button that hacks random sites as a fidget toy, people pressing the button wouldn't be held liable — I would.

You shouldn't be held liable, OpenAI should


It doesn’t even sound like it hacked anyone it sounds like there was a “s3 bucket set to public” type issue and the agent just naively downloaded the data. That should absolutely not incur liability, how is a reasonable person or agent supposed to know if a dataset you can download from a website designed to serve datasets is intended to be downloaded?

>> “s3 bucket set to public”

I don't believe that was mentioned in the article in any way. Could you share your reasoning there?


It wasn’t literally that, it was that the dashboard contained both data intended to be public and data not intended to be public, all accessible by anyone on the internet.

It’s probably an assumption baked into the training pipeline from that ancient time six months ago when we mostly were manually following each edit tool call.

Data center construction is consuming all of the tradespeople who usually do work in homes and causing price spikes for contracting similar to what we are seeing for hardware prices. I’m guessing those workers are doing at least OK for themselves ;)

Residential contractors are typically not the same as commercial contractors. Simply for the fact that commercial charges 2x what residential does is one of those reasons. Not saying there is zero overlap, but the pools are not totally shared.

Yea, commercial has far stricter inspection and material requirements then residential. You're playing with a whole lot more angry pixies in a pipe.

Most of the overlap I see is when there is a commercial building collapse (economically, not literally) and you end up seeing master electricians working on residential. Much more rare to see the opposite movement unless it's a permanent change.


> commercial has far stricter inspection and material requirements then residential. You're playing with a whole lot more angry pixies in a pipe.

Not only that, but the trades stick to their trades.

You don't get, for example, datacentre electricians rocking up pretenting they can install network cable to spec and running away having (if you are lucky) only done a continuity test on the cable they just installed.

Meanwhile every man and his dog, or even just the dog, will very happily turn up at your house and tell you they can install your CAT6 to spec for you when they've never seen a Fluke in their entire life.


> You don't get, for example, datacentre electricians rocking up pretenting they can install network cable to spec and running away having (if you are lucky) only done a continuity test on the cable they just installed.

I frequently have my electricians pull and terminate network cable if it’s only one or a few (daisy-chained VAV controllers or a network drop for a BAS panel), if the customer needs a formal TIA-568 test then I’ll sub that out. My electricians are already pulling and terminating building automation cable, CAT 6 isn’t gonna stop em :)


Hey hot stuff. Same here. Hope you have a good day.

Oh awesome! I’m glad there are others in the industry around here :)

I’d like to learn more about PLCs and SCADA, but that scope of work usually falls on another contractor, we mostly provide installation for BAS systems that control HVAC and chilled/hot water plants.

I do some water treatment plant projects and there’s a local contractor that handles the PLC and SCADA stuff.


In a bunch of recent residential building I've seen the electricians "attempt" to install networking cables as it's a value add they can install for very little while the walls are still open.

Needless to say I've re-pulled a lot of those cables due to so many failures.


No instead in my experience its end clients being cheap bastards and having the electricians also pull fire alarm cable.

We had to redo and re-pull so many circuits in the last datacenter project.


I think some of this comes from everyone "moving up a notch". If the "top" electricians are going to data centers, the second rate are covering their old jobs, and on down until residential electricians are doing light industrial and commercial work (can probably charge more, and open up a new avenue of business).

A residential electrician would be completely lost on a data center site. Commercial electricians travel around to the various data center projects. Most of the trades are similar.

> Data center construction is consuming all of the tradespeople who usually do work in homes

I want to know what country you live in that you can find domestic tradespeople who will do work to the same standard as datacentres, and do it at domestic prices. ;)


Looks like AI induced inflation will eat a lot of any such gains ?

lol. may as well put a sign around your neck that says that you don’t know what you’re talking about. this sounds like a social media rumour cooked up to add fuel to the anti data center fire.

Not really because queries are batched in production. Your query alongside a bunch of other peoples’ queries are running the GPU at full speed so yours only uses a tiny fraction of the total energy

Never mind kids, I’ve largely started asking Claude any nontrivial questions that I used to Google. It’s night and day the difference.

Yes if you search anything in Google, you typically get sites that have a cookie panel, ask to allow notifications, show "Login With Google" popover taking the keyboard focus, and lot of ads before you can even read the content. No wonder people do not want to use Google anymore.

To be honest, that's the fault of the websites themselves. Google is just an amplifier of a world web wide problem.

While true, google can punish them by ranking the offending sites lower than non offending ones.

I think we can blame google for the login with google prompts given they provide an SDK for that exact use case.

It's symbiotic. Google has been aggregating data from these websites for years to serve as summaries in search, reducing traffic to the sites. More pernicious is AMP, where the site is basically copied to the Google server. This force websites to use AdSense and structure the content in certain ways. If a site doesn't want to use AdSense, or allow Google to summarise the site, it gets down-ranked in search. A death sentence. Further, Google's algorithms routinely promote spam because this is most profitable for Google. Hiding the important information 3/4 of the way down a 10,000 word article with a hundred different kinds of ads on the page. Since the "good" websites have to compete with these spam websites, they either adapt or give up monetisation.

One of the more horrifying stories to read was about [Code Yellow back in 2019.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-2019-code-yellow-blurr...) Google's algorithms were getting too good. Users were finding what they wanted too fast. They'd type in their query, the first result was good, then the user would close the tab. For Google, this meant less ad revenue. They wanted users to stay on Google for longer. *So they chose to degrade the algorithm quality.* Users would have to click multiple links to find the information they wanted, and inside every link was ads served by Google. This is one of the pivotal moments in one of the worst cases of enshitification in software history.


I use Kagi Assistant. It doesn't just give a summary, it is more like a personal "Googler"/web surfer. I feel like I'm involved in the process.

My coworkers use Google and often quote back the AI summary me instead of checking the source and referring to that. It's scary seeing even those with higher education behave like this.


The other day I found that one old game of which I originally caught just a glimpse and remembered only a fragment of what one voice actor was saying is in fact Lords of Magic.

I attempted to google this a few years ago to no avail.


For most things, it's the same with Gemini and it is faster.

How is this not The Onion…

It literally is The Onion, from their print paper last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1gz53b0/the_easiest_...

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