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we had a referendum in 2011

Right after Fukushima


I am not sure, if I see the example of US as federation, it might work well for corporations only, but people have nothing, uniformity doesn't work because not all populations have the same needs/expectations

> I am not sure, if I see the example of US as federation, it might work well for corporations only, but people have nothing,

What does this mean, concretely? What do the people not have? Who are those people? What would they have in the EU?

There is this odd fatalistic attitude about the US in this thread that seems divorced from the reality I’ve experienced in my travels.


universal healthcare, paid time off just to cite two

work/life balance?


Maybe, but it’s way too difficult to do business in the EU.

Not because I think regulations are bad. But regulations need to be well designed with clears lines on what the Federal / State are allowed to do.


Its hard because its 27 different countries, but they are working on making it less hard. Many startups are made in Europe, but then bought up (often by Americans) or moves to USA when its time to expand outside the single countries boarders. Canada has the same problem.

Canada has made it pretty clear that they do not want to be part of the big country south of it, so they will have to find a way to create large companies that stays. Doing this together with a market of 450 million people seems like a good idea.


It's easy to do any business in EU, it's hard if you want to do business in EU over multiple countries, but if you are planning to do business over multiple countries then you're already extremely rich so you can afford staff to navigate regulations

you don't get it, americans are shallow people with no culture or background whose biggest achievement is saying I am 1/8 irish or something, but countries over here have millennial of culture


> but it’s way too difficult to do business in the EU.

They are working in it: https://www.eu-inc.org/

I have no clue whether that will be a success, but at least they have recognised that problem as well.


You can't deal with 27 different groups of people without dealing with 27 different groups of people or forcibly unifying them to become 1 group. I'm sure you agree the latter is bad.

That’s obviously reductive. They don’t have to be forced. They could mutually agree to unify more strongly

Yes, and they have in some ways, and that's called the EU. They have not unified in every way. For example the French people have not agreed to start eating Surströmming, they do not want to start eating Surströmming, I don't know whether it's even legal there to possess it, and that decision should rightfully be up to them. If you want to sell your Surströmming in France you have to take France into account, you can't just assume your business will be the same everywhere in Europe, and that's not just limited to laws, but also all other facets of culture. For another basic example, you have to have a version of your packaging written in French. The EU is not going to mandate that English packaging is accepted in all countries, for very obvious reasons.

> but it’s way too difficult to do business in the EU

Been doing it for decades. Not a billionaire and not interested in becoming one; in the US I would've been one. But never had issues.


I bought a VW couple of months ago, and on a provincial street I was at 180km/h with no instability, afterwards it reported that tyre pressure was lost, and I found a nail in a tyre, I guess people can buy american/chinese cars if they want to save money but it's their lifes


Isn’t this a tyre quality thing


It is not that society needs to be prisoner of small creators, every time there is some regulation the small creator and hobbyist come to the rescue cmon


So society should be a prisoner to corporations instead, giving them even more power because you didn't think through how your brilliant new regulation could be misused by malicious actors? Cmon, indeed.


They make it so extremely easy to return that I've never actually bothered to read reviews


Sometimes that’s not an option, e.g. buying snow chains before a ski trip. Often the reviews reveal product limitations that aren’t specified in the listing.


Years ago I bought a Dell XPS and an electric kettle, even though they both had a number one complaint on reviews (XPS: coil whine, kettle: plastic lid crazing).

Both products are still available and it seems they both have the same complaints from a decade ago.

"Dell continues to treat mild-to-moderate coil whine as an inherent characteristic of components rather than a manufacturing defect".

Leave a review to help others, but don't expect manufacturers to care about even egregious issues.


I agree reviews aren’t perfect. and I’ve had many good products with poor reviews, and vice-versa


Society picks up the slack for a lot of bad stuff that others do, so it's fine, you can't expect all the parents to be great parents, I've met some to whom I'd not give even a tamagochi, but they have kids and those kids need to be taken care of regardless.


Passing the buck further down the line only to enrich the well-to-do isn't exactly the meaning of "it takes a village to raise a child".


and asserting this to be true, do you really think these kinds of laws in ANY kind of way helps?


But to be honest I bought a VW Polo this year, in february, it's amazing, it's invasive, but full of optionals, sensors, and comforts

I was a bit scared by reading on internet people complaining about cars full of electronics, it's been a bless for me, for real

useful context, I live in Naples, Italy, it's a city made for horses


It's good that somewhere the quality of work is rewarded more than the quantity


It could easily be that AI is a foreign hostile operation to make everything insecure


Wait until you see that ECB is shared between European states central banks that themselves shared between each country commercial banks

The ECB is directly governed by European Union law. Its capital stock, worth €11 billion, is owned by all 27 central banks of the EU member states as shareholders.[6] The initial capital allocation key was determined in 1998 on the basis of the states' population and GDP, but the capital key has been readjusted since.[6] Shares in the ECB are not transferable and cannot be used as collateral.

-- Italian Central bank As of early 2024, the 15 largest shareholders represented slightly over half of the bank's equity, namely UniCredit (5.0 percent), Cassa nazionale di previdenza ed assistenza per gli ingegneri ed architetti liberi professionisti [it] (4.9 percent), Fondazione ENPAM [it] (4.9 percent), Cassa nazionale di previdenza e assistenza forense [it] (4.9 percent), Intesa Sanpaolo (4.9 percent), Cassa nazionale di previdenza e assistenza dei dottori commercialisti [it] (3.7 percent), BPER Banca (3.3 percent), ICCREA Banca (3.1 percent), Generali Italia (3.0 percent), the National Institute for Social Security (3.0 percent), Istituto nazionale per l'assicurazione contro gli infortuni sul lavoro (3.0 percent), Cassa di Sovvenzioni e Risparmio fra il Personale della Banca d'Italia [it] (3.0 percent), Cassa di Risparmio di Asti (3.0 percent), Banca Nazionale del Lavoro (2.8 percent), and Crédit Agricole Italia (2.8 percent). The remaining 49 percent were dispersed among 157 shareholders, mainly banks and banking foundations.[49]


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