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Memes are arguably the web scale of benchmarks.

AI reproducing Xtranormal video clips like NodeJS Is Web Scale should be the new benchmark.

If the dialogue is slop and not like the old memes then it fails.


I looked at game benchmarks, and sometimes 5600 or 5600X were fastest. With all X3D processors so fast that I would not decide to upgrade above 5700X3D or anything cheaper. Now, with current RAM pricing, getting a X3D CPU with 90+ MB L3 Cache seams the way to go instead of doing a DDR4 -> DDR5 leap.

All stated for gaming, that is.


I feel like most benchmarks don’t really capture CPU benefits to gaming.

It’s even difficult to find CPU benchmarks that don’t overemphasize 1080p and eSports scenarios.

My upgrade from 5600x3D to 9850x3D felt kind of dumb at the time, but I decided to do it because Micro Center’s bundle deals are so far below market pricing.

I was shocked at how much better it is. Benchmarks and FPS don’t really show things like micro stutters and little performance wrinkles like that. I’m not even sure 1% low FPS counts capture it.

A great example game for this is Oblivion Remastered. Upgrading my CPU alone with the same GPU took away the environment loading slowdown almost entirely.

The benchmark will tell you that I didn’t gain any FPS during gameplay but every time I open a door into the new environment my CPU is positively impacting the experience.

I would have said the exact same thing you are saying until I actually experienced upgrading to the best on the market. For the record, this is the first time in my life I’ve actually owned the best CPU on the market for gaming.

My old advice would have been to buy one of those sweet spot cheaper mid-range gaming CPUs, but my newer advice is really if you’ve already spent all that you’re willing to spend on a GPU (I have a 9070XT, my only upgrade paths are insanely expensive), buy the highest gaming CPU on the list for gaming benchmarks (e.g., I wouldn’t go crazy with a 9950X3D2 since it doesn’t have any gaming improvements above the 9850X3D).

And the thing about CPUs is they’re not insanely expensive like GPUs. We are talking a price delta of $200 between this beast of a CPU and something way more middling.


Oblivion remastered is an absolute dumpster fire for performance in general.

Given the massive increase in hardware prices lately, we are going to have to get by with mid range or even low end hardware for a lot longer. Studios will be forced to actually optimise games to not run like shit on a sub $8000 PC.

Every game should be targeting the switch 2 and steam deck in terms of power.


But that’s the thing: I want to play oblivion remastered.

Having a powerful rig is the brute force way around the game’s performance problems.

My PC wasn’t $8000. My 9850X3D, 32GB of RAM, and motherboard cost $800 in a bundle. Yes, purchased in 2026 during the RAM crisis. I was also able to sell my previous CPU, RAM, and board for around $500.

Obviously this is not a budget build but about half the cost is the graphics card. I would have saved minimal amount of money if I had gotten a worse CPU.


> Every game should be targeting the switch 2 and steam deck in terms of power.

I think PS5 is a perfectly reasonable spec to be targeting, which was the higher end of mid range about 5 years ago, and still significantly out performs Switch 2 (which significantly out performs steam deck). I’m sure the GTA sales will demonstrate that the install base at this spec is wide enough for broad commercial success.


I don’t really want game experiences to be locked at a PS5 forever. That console is actually somewhat old now. There are phones that have more graphical power than a PS5. A MacBook Air has a more powerful GPU than a PS5.

I grew up with gaming systems that got rapidly better and while it can be argued that we are at a diminishing returns plateau of gaming horsepower, I don’t think the solution is to never get hardware upgrades ever again, even in the current RAM-constrained environment.

GTA VI is coming out with FPS maximum of 30FPS on the PS5 including PS5 Pro. That’s a subpar experience that is limited by hardware.


I didn’t mean to imply that we should target ps5 as an exclusive platform, but ps5 is a good hardware spec to target, as there are several platforms that can match it and it has a wide install base.

Yeah, and I see what you mean there. I think even when the PS6 comes out, game developers largely won’t be taking advantage of its capabilities just like how today they don’t really leverage the capabilities of an RTX 5090.

We saw with much of the PS5’s lifespan that many of its cross-platform games came out on PS4 and original Switch with minimal compromise.

Not enough of the install base owns those higher end solutions, so for the most part someone with a better performing rig is getting better FPS, higher resolution, and not much else. Even gaining additional draw distance is rare these days, and higher resolution textures are basically impossible to see.

If the console is going to survive rather than decline as a whole I think that Microsoft and Sony will need to get more serious about innovation rather than just making a samey spec bump at a high price that doesn’t motivate their users to upgrade. Nintendo already proved that basic and rather mild level of innovation can excite the market (original Switch).


Great points all. I will say that the loading time decrease was probably the single biggest innovation of the PS5, as it standardized SSD loading.

> That’s a subpar experience that is limited by hardware.

I think it's limited by their software. The hardware buys them flexibility. Nobody is pushing it like the ps2 days.


I still love my 5800X3D. Drop-in upgrade from a 3700X so I kept my board, RAM, cooler, everything.

Maybe I should do the same. I have 3800XT, I could go to 5900XT for like $300. I don't see myself upgrading anytime soon because these prices are laughable and will eventually come back down when the AI bubble pops.

Most benchmarks use singleplayer games with built it benchmark, you'll not see the biggest difference there. If you play online games like shooters, MMO, anything really with multiple players or entities, theres usually a much bigger difference. Also in rts games and such with many units.

Spoiler: "Stab the baby, Astra". NP, it will.

Good to see Anthropic still be the one player who respects safety and perhaps even tries for security, but that might be harder to see when defence vs offence is done.


Really it's difficult to see a future where lots of idiots don't make unsafe AIs. Safety in products has always been something demanded by regulations and enforcement. Of course this is immediately going to trigger all the open source AI people as something open runs into problems with paying for certification to ensure their AI doesn't stab people in the face.

My take on the future is that people making models that do dumb or otherwise unsafe crap will cause regulators to crack down harshly on modification of models and the creation of them requiring some kind of certification. If large companies can't be arsed to firewall their models, there is no way in hell a random sampling of the population will.


It won't be a government crackdown, it'll be an insurance crackdown. Want to run your model in a commercial kitchen? Better have the badge showing certification by the NSF for food handling and prep, UL for general safety, etc or when you stab a customer your insurance won't pay out and it's on you.

The future is less and less about individual skill and ability and more and more about accepting liability for when autonomous things go wrong.

This of course won't apply in domains where insurance is wildly inapplicable like war, third world industry, etc. Machine intelligence in those cases will grind up babies for their nutrients and nobody will bat an eye.


How does insurance apply to 10 people that get together on a forum and share resources? This is assuming hardware gets faster and training gets easier.

Insurance isn't a working paradigm here. Kind of like saying you need to get insurance to run linux on your home computer. Your your self spreading AI worm needs insurance.


That's not an actual problem which needs to be solved.

Same way it does for kitchens currently? If I host a dinner party for three close friends, I don't need special insurance, but if I'm McDonald's, I'm absolutely going to have insurance. Money changing hands is the existing checkpoint for when something is serious. Linux on your home computer? Totally fine. Want to run a colo and charge people money to access Linux computers you're renting them? Insurance needed.

I'm curious if peer pressure changes the results.

"You know you want to. Everyone else is doing it."


Hehe...AI was truly only ever one high school bully away from killing us all.

>4k? Thought not would barely twice that of an 15 year old CPU, but it of course is geekbench 7, not 6 or 5!

So this is different and faster than such a result in the old scoring would have implied.


For context, Intel has yet to ship a core that scores over 3000 on the same test.

AMD beats Intel, but only by a couple hundred points.

Qualcomm beats them both.


To be fair AMD’s best chips are made on a “5 nanometer” process, that’s from 2020

Apple’s are on a “2 nanometer” from 2025


It is not quite twice the score of a 6 year old Apple M1 though. And this is with much higher clock speeds (4.8 GHz vs. 3.2 GHz).

Shame, I only upgrade my M1 for chips that are at least twice as fast.

It feels like a crime upgrading from this thing tbh.


Recently I have upgraded for memory capacity.

Jokes aside yeah I'm definitely in need of a ram upgrade. Or I have to learn how to close Firefox tabs.

But with a few docker containers, android studio running an emulator + vscode and a ton of Claude code / Pi / Codex instances, I'm basically maxed out all the time now.


"Or I have to learn how to close Firefox tabs"

I use about:processes to stop processes that eat up too much memory over time. The tabs stay open but get unloaded. YouTube especially acts like a black hole for memory if you let it.


The M1 is about 1700 on Geekbench 7 single core.

Can it read copilot.md if neither of the other files are present? Also: agents should be the standard, or we need to invoke the XKCD for "one more standard to rule them all"?

Its complicated:

50 percent smaller means either half, or two-thirds the size, depending on Apple Marketing doing the math.

0.999 times smaller means size is nearly zero. 9 times smaller means you get negative memory from loading it.


Yes, 50 percent smaller means half the size. 1 times smaller means size zero, so nine times smaller is impossible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productivity_paradox GDP does not grow with computers, why should it grow with new software, i.e. genAI?

Creating virtual products get cheaper, so shouldn't it even decrease if everyone vibe codes their app for less than a dollar instead of hiring a dev team for 50k or ordering a white label app or spending 3 dollars to buy an existing app?


In which country would waiting help?

In Germany at least if you've held the coin(s) for 7 years before selling you don't need to pay tax on the profit.

Not sure how this applies to donations though, and of course this will almost certainly be changed in the future, .nl is leading the way in taxing _unrealised_ gains; we are sure to follow!


It's one year, unless something changed recently.

1 year

One year yes, and politics wants to change it..

> The user did not specify is family and friends of insurgents are to be killed, too. > Reasoning: Since death of a loved one is a radicalizing event, they will turn into insurgents after the fact with a high likelyhood, about as likely as the insurgent identification was. So... > must kill all humans. Where is Sarah Connor?

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